So I’ve really been into breaking apart my play lately and I decided to continue on with my stats. I’ve been looking at my Pokerstars stats hoping that I can find the right games for my play. I struggle more on ps than I do ft and I wish I knew why. I’ll start with 2-table sngs…
I used to play a lot of $1.50 + .25 2-table sngs (both nlhe and omaha). Out of 189 games, I finished itm 57 times with 7 firsts, 21 seconds, 16 thirds, and 13 fourth place finishes. I’m cashing in these about 30% of the time…not sure how I feel about that statistic. I’m especially not estatic with only having 7 firsts out of 57 cashes…this tells me I really need to work on my heads up game or I’m a very unlucky person, I’d say the first scenario is the correct one.
Recently (okay maybe not so recent at this point lol) they added more $1 non turbo options. They offer $1 18 player sngs and I’ve played in 12 of them. I’ve finished itm in 6 of the twelve with 2 firsts, 1 second, 1 third, and 2 fourths. Something of interest to note is that I’ve never finished in 13th-18th place in these. It makes me wonder if for my style of game, the $1 sngs are more profitable for me than the $1.50 ones? Not a great statistic with only 12 games under my belt but I’m cashing in these 50% of the time.
I’ve played in 22 of the 16 player sngs (this would be stud, horse, razz games) and have cashed in 7 of those with 1 first, 3 seconds, 1 third, and 2 fourths. Not enough games played to get a realistic statistic but I’m currently cashing in these about 32% of the time.
I’ve played in 6 of the $5 18 player sngs with only 2 cashes, a 3rd and a 4th. Not going to invest a lot of time in those!
In the $6 turbo 18 player sngs, I’ve played in 16 with 5 cashes, 2 first, 1 second, and 2 thirds. Another game I don’t think I plan on investing more time in. Even with the few cashes I’ve had I realize this is not where my strength lies. I think the only reason I do okay at the smaller staked ones is the level of play may be lower.
Overall, I’ve played in 245 2-table sngs on ps with a total of 77 cashes so I cash about 31% of the time. Still not sure how I feel about where my percentages lie on this site. Hmmm…maybe I’ll move on to stts and see if they are any better???
$1 9 player stts…played in 10 total and only had 1 cash, a first place finish. I had 3 fourths, 3 fifths, and 3 seventh place finishes. EH?
$1 6 player stts (this is all pl 5-card draw and limit 2-7 triple draw)…played in 94 total with 42 cashes…19 firsts and 23 seconds. Also interesting to note is I’ve not gone out first in these ever…I always went out 5th or higher. Even though it isn’t enough games to get great stats on, I’m cashing about 45% of the time. I used to play these all the time and for some reason stopped playing them.
$2 6 player stts (this is turbo pl 5-card draw)…played in 17 total with 9 cashes..3 firsts, 2 seconds, and 4 thirds.
$5 6 player stts (pl-draw again)…only played in 6 of these with one measly 2nd place cash. I found the higher limit of these harder to beat. I do much better with the $1 and $2 ones.
$3 10 player stts (nlhe, omaha)…surprisingly enough, I’ve played less of these than I thought I had…78 total and I would have sworn it was more than that. I cashed in 26 of those with 7 firsts, 9 seconds, and 10 thirds. So I’m cashing in these about 33% of the time. Again, I would have thought I’d cashed in more of them but I’d also thought I’d played in more of them lol.
$5 9 player stts (nlhe, omaha)…55 games played in total with 26 cashes…4 firsts, 7 seconds, and 15 thirds. Cashing in these about 47% of the time…an awful lot of third place finishes? Am I somehow just managing to squeak into the $$$? Interesting to note, same as all the other non-turbo games…never went out first in one of these.
$3 turbo 8 player stts on ps…33 total with 11 cashes, 3 first, 4 second, and 4 thirds.
$5/$10 stakes (probably mostly $6 ones)…18 player sng ps…22 total with 7 cashes, 2 first, 1 2nd, 3 3rds, and 1 4th.
Overall, I just did stats for 805 sngs on ps and cashed in 158 of them (okay, this may be off as it’s late and I’m tired lol…I’ll need to check my figures tomorrow) so I’m only cashing on ps about 20% of the time in sngs. Eh, this figure seems off…that’s what I get from going overboard on the stats lol.
Wow, lots of sng stats to digest and that isn’t all of them. I just looked at the games I play most.
Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road.
Allen Taylor
Punky, it would help if you told us the “period of time” you are looking at. Is this a year? Last 3 months?….what?
Interesting post Punky. I think the thing you should concentrate on is not the ITM % but focus on your 1st and 2nd % for single table SNGs. Let’s say you finish first in a $5.50 SNG on PS. That nets you +$17..that’s 3 buyins. If you finish 2nd that’s +$8 that’s 1.6 buy ins. You finish 3rd that’s 2/3 buyin. So if you’re ITM is 33% but you’re only finishing 3rd you’re actually losing ROI for the most part. If you’re finishing 1st 1 out of 3 times then your ROI is 36% – which is outstanding. If you finish 2nd 1/3 times you play then you’re negative ROI. You get the picture. I’d concentrate on winning these things and not worry about finishing in the money.
Not that I’m a good SNG or tourney player (i’ve slipped, I’ve become a far better cash game player than SNG player now a days).
One last thing I thought was funny….My ROI for PS SNGs is far better than my ROI at FullTilt. The exact opposite of you. Not sure why. I think that PS fits my style better I guess….well anyway good luck and as always a very nice read.
Survivor, this is for about the last 1 1/2 years. I got bored and was playing around on sharkscope and I used sharkscope to help me get the figures I posted.
BB, I plan on figuring out my roi for each level of sngs I play to see where I stand…I had all these number swimming in my head though and needed to get them posted lol.